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NOTICE: RESPECT THE STAFF. - ALL USERS, PLEASE READ.

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Re: NOTICE: RESPECT THE STAFF. - ALL USERS, PLEASE READ.

Post by James Pyotr on Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:53 pm

Just saying, but JJS does have a point about the rules. Just because all the admins are in agreement on what the rules mean and how they are enforced (which I highly doubt is 100% true, but irrelevant), doesn't mean all us peons know the same. That's why there's written rules. Those who live in other countries might not relate to this, but in the United States, our country was founded on certain principles. One of those was that the law be written down, clearly, so there was as little "interpretation" of it as possible in order to restrict the power of the executive and judiciary. Ambiguous rules (especially if and when they aren't in the "common sense" category that most of the rules on this site are in) are much more easily broken (intentionally or not) than clearly-explained ones. I think that's what JJS was getting at. As a student of American History and early American political history, I felt compelled to point this out.
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Post by Aokpisz on Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:06 pm

I agree. I mean, I understand that JJS may be beating a proverbial dead horse, but he has a point.
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Re: NOTICE: RESPECT THE STAFF. - ALL USERS, PLEASE READ.

Post by The Cracken on Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:14 pm

I've felt for a while now that the rules could be condensed into a single post (rather than all these announcements and posts in the Rules topic) and organized all neat and clearly. I'll discuss this with the others and work on something that might help.

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Post by Fluffy on Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:20 pm

We've mentioned that before, Crackers. Take a shot at it. =P

Well I think the reason this topic went up is very clear. Just incase it's not clear, here's a quote from page one of this topic:

If they ask you to stop something, stop doing it.

If they tell you that you are breaking a rule, don't whine about it or insult them, accept it and move on.

If you are punished for your actions, do not say the staff is against you, do not disrespect the staff for it, accept that you did something worthy of punishment, and deal with it.

The staff will NOT ask you to stop doing something without a good reason.

The staff will NOT tell you that you are breaking a rule, if you are not.

The staff will NOT punish you for actions you did not do.



In short, the message is this:

Respect the staff, respect what the staff members say, and be a good, behaving member like everyone else, who has fun on this site on a daily basis without problems.

One of the main issues we've had as staff is users who don't comply when asked to drop a topic on the chatbox, or to stop discussing it any further on the chatbox. We do have posted rules. They even come with comics to make the point more insane clear. Razz

For the sake of not spamming up this topic, if anyone has input about the rules, please post them in the topic entitled - HANG on, I forgot what that topic is actually called. xD

BACK.

Suggestions. Post anything you'd like to suggest in that topic, please. Thanks. LOL

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Post by Not Em on Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:28 pm


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Post by Lord Maglor Feanorion on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:37 pm

@Fluffy: No, the staff clearly DOESN'T agree. Pik has said that if a lone staffer is sprouting garbage, and the the users on chat all agree that he is sprouting garbage, we are not required to listen to him. You and Crackers have said exactly the opposite.
So, is Pik not staff, or are you and Crackers not staff? Razz

@Crackers: That's not the problem. The problem is that the rules have been worded in a way that what you MEANT to say isn't at all the first thing that people think of.
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Post by Doctor Who on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:26 pm

@Maglor: I'm staff, and I'm in agreement with these rules. Razz

Typically a person doesn't become staff if they are liable to spout nonsense. Yes we joke around and have fun, but there's a pretty clear line between that and absurdity. There comes a point when people just need to use common sense to see what is good or not (like right now Razz). Common sense shouldn't have to be in the rules.

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Post by The Cracken on Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:03 pm

I will work on a revised, more clear set of rules so that questions will come up less frequently. For now, I'm locking this topic. Thanks for the input. Nardeeps laugh

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